Saturday, July 14, 2007

HEHE - NEWSBUSTERS IS AFRAID OF ME

All I do is post a few facts and -- POOF! -- I'm banished again from a wingnut site.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

no you're out cuz yo're an idiot

Steve J. said...

No, I weas banned because the little bitches who support the Iraq Clusterfuck can't handle an oppsoing point of view.

Anonymous said...

no you are an idiot

Anonymous said...

pinella is a dope. He has no balls, no truth, no facts. A brainwashed infant who would cower like a 3 year old girl if ever a hand was raised to him. Unlike our American soldiers. Let's hope, if ever there is another attack on American soil, it happens wherever pinella is standing.

Anonymous said...

Pinella...

You act so immaturely that you destroy any credibility you may possibly bring to the discussion.

However, you will, no doubt, not accept that comment as it is contrary to what you believe, that any other point of view is invalid.

You will not win hearts or minds with your manner of discourse.

Anonymous said...

you were banished because your inflammatory remarks were not "facts" but a need/desire to tantrum on an adult website.

Anonymous said...

Still waiting for your words of wisdom;
Hey pinhead, please explain how Bush managed to fool all of these democrats before he was even President. I know Gov. of Texas is a powerful position but I am not sure how he got Clinton and Albright et al to agree with him before Bush got into office.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton. - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source



Townhall.com | August 1, 2003

President George W. Bush, under siege for "misleading" the country into war against Iraq, received some help from an unusual source -- former President Bill Clinton.

"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for . . . it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks . . . " said Clinton recently on "Larry King Live." Also, Clinton said he never found out whether a U.S.-British bombing campaign he ordered in 1998 ended Saddam's stockpiles of or his capability of producing chemical and biological weapons. "We might have gotten it all, we might have gotten half of it, we might have gotten none of it. But we didn't know," said Clinton.

Presidential contender Sen. Bob Graham, D-FL, actually suggested impeachment of the president over Bush's 2003 State of the Union speech reference about an Iraqi-Africa uranium connection. But Clinton said, "The White House said . . . that on balance they probably shouldn't have put that comment in the speech. What happened, often happens. There was a disagreement between British intelligence and American intelligence. The president said it was British intelligence that said it. . . . British intelligence still maintain that they think the nuclear story was true. I don't know what was true, what was false. . . . Here's what happens: every day the president gets a daily brief from the CIA. And then, if it's some important issue -- and believe me, you know, anything having to do with chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons became much more important to everybody in the White House after September the 11th -- then they probably told the president, certainly Condoleezza Rice, that this is what the British intelligence thought."

Steve J. said...

The remarks from 1998 are irrelevant. The remarks after 2000 show one of 2 things: (1) there were grounds to send the weapons inspectors back to Iraq; (2) many believed the Bush lies about the WMD.

Anonymous said...

The remarks from 1998 are irrelevant. The remarks after 2000 show one of 2 things: (1) there were grounds to send the weapons inspectors back to Iraq; (2) many believed the Bush lies about the WMD.

The remarks are only relevant if you believe there's a vacuum of 2 years between '98 and '00. Or you "believe" that somehow in that span of time, knowledge about Iraq's WMDs became absolute and there was no longer any question about them as there was pre-Bush. The entire point of the previous quotes is that "Iraq has WMDs" was NOT a spontaneous invention of the Bush administration. It was a continuous meme that had existed for years before Bush. If Gore was in that position in '01-'03, he probably would have made a very similar decision. And I certainly wouldn't call him a liar for it. Misguided/Mistaken? Sure, just as Bush is.

Steve J. said...

The remarks are only relevant if you believe there's a vacuum of 2 years between '98 and '00.

I believe Operation Desert Fox was very successful.

Steve J. said...

If Gore was in that position in '01-'03, he probably would have made a very similar decision.

Gore would not have invaded when the U.N. inspectors weren't finding anything despite being given our best tips about where to look.