Sunday, February 24, 2008

GOOD FOR CNN!

CNN puts several of the wingnut smears about Obama upfront and debunks them. Opinions vary, but I for one am glad that CNN went public with the crap because it gives the decent people among us another view at the incredible ugliness of the conservative mind.

UPDATE:
Josh Marshall and John Aravosis are pissed at CNN.

9 comments:

Unknown said...

I just saw the video of Obama not putting his hand in his heart during the pledge of allegiance in a different occasion. all the people on stage had thei hand on their heart except Obama. That made me sooo infuriated. He's excuse is he forgot like everyone else. I guess he forgets a lot. The problem is he's not civilian that serves in the U.S. senate. I'm ashamed of him and will not vote for him on March 4.

Anonymous said...

Anyone notice the strong support from Farrakahn for NObama???? WAKE UP PEOPLE! NObama is a Phony! He has hidden agenda for his 'people.' Those led by Farrakahn. We all know that here in Illinois, where he has done absolutely nothing, including ignoring the horrible tragedy at NIU!

Anonymous said...

The conservative mind isn't just ugly. It's sick, twisted, and ignorant. Most of them couldn't think their way out off a wet paper bag! The moron who attempts to convince us that Obama is a closet Islamist is a prime example. But where teh consiervative sheep are midless idiots, their leaders are pure evil. In the kind of government they would impose on us, most of them would find themselve is a damp basement having a bullet put into the backs of their heads.

Anonymous said...

I maintain the real questions come from the antiwar left and right.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/ ele...r022408.article

"Nader demonstrated off the bat on Sunday that he can whip up controversy for front-runner Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), saying he flip-flopped on support for the Palestinian cause. This will touch a nerve because the Obama campaign has been working to lock-in Jewish voters by stressing his strong backing for Israel."

The big question is, would Obama follow a pro-Israeli,
soft Likudist line, or would he
break free of "The Lobby" of Mearsheimer and Walt and ensure
a fair settlement for the Palestinians? And what about the
fact,as a commentor elsewhere said that Obama is "not calling for full withdrawal... at a specified date. He's calling for the withdrawal of "combat" troops only. That leaves behind thousands and thousands of other troops. These US service members will be doing "police" operations, they will be handling "training" and they will be going after "terrorists."

Obama did vote to continue funding the war several times. On the other side, Kucinich, who did not, threw his support to him.

Steve J. said...

Mary,

I have stood for the national anthem hundreds of times, in villages and NYC, and very few ever put their hand over their heart.

Anonymous said...

Comment: Vote of authority to invade Iraq.

February 26, 2008

First I ask! Was Mr. Obama a Senator when the vote for authorization of invasion of Iraq occurred? I believe that vote happened in 2002. He was not a senator, so his opinion is his opinion at the time. Not a commitment to action by him. Meaning not present to vote for any thing ay or nay. His opinion at the time is that of a private citizen.
His opinion at the time was not the popular opinion of the people if we can remember our own thoughts at the time.
The country was at the time still suffering the outrage over the 09-11-2001 attack of the World Trade Center. Faith in the President was high by the people as well as our nations allies. The justification was sold to the American people by the President, his Secretary of State, and his intelligence authority. The people at the time stood with the president as the leader of our nation as the people should for a nation united. That is the back ground of this vote for the authorization of a possible invasion of Iraq.
Both houses were held by a Republican majority at the time. Hillary Clinton is the Senator from the state that suffered the attack. She has the responsibility to seek and destroy the terrorists, I think she made the proper vote at the time based on a good faith trust in the presidents information and assumed intentions. The Senate authorized the President the option to invade Iraq should other action to secure information of weapons of mass destruction failed.
It was the President who had the authority to invade the Nation of Iraq and it was his judgment alone to do so. I believe that the news agencies of our nation supported the invasion.
Many of us did not support the war with Iraq, including me at first
I then changed my opinion an wrote the president with my support. I was concerned about Iraq having nuclear weapons. Which was the justification presented to every body, if we are honest to our selves and remember.

Thank you

Unknown said...

Steve, the only problem is that his not an ordinary person! His vying to become the democratic nominee and that's just an excuse he preys on people like you. Maybe you should read the time online an theirs an article on how Obama land deals evolved more than just a mistake. People involve in this are Iraqi and Syrian connections.http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece

Anonymous said...

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/25/obama-distinguishes-between-pro-israel-and-pro-likud/

here is a moderately encouraging sign on Obama and, along with Iraq,the biggest Middle East issue
which has turned the Islamic world against America.

Steve J. said...

ANON wrote " Hillary Clinton is the Senator from the state that suffered the attack. She has the responsibility to seek and destroy the terrorists, I think she made the proper vote at the time based on a good faith trust in the presidents information and assumed intentions."

I think she had a responsibility to read ALL of the NIE on Iraq. Only a handful of Senators did (or had a staff member do so) and I fault ALL the ones who didn't.