Saturday, November 24, 2007

LINDA BOYD GETS IT, WINGNUTS DON'T

In an op-ed in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Boyd lays out 3 excellent reasons to being impeachment hearings on Cheney:

The vice president is accused of:

  • purposely manipulating intelligence to fabricate a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in order to justify an attack on Iraq;
  • deceiving Congress about an alleged relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida;
  • threatening aggression against the Republic of Iran, absent any real threat to the United States.

  • She also thinks these issues should be examined:

  • illegal war, in violation of both international treaty and the Constitution;
  • widespread domestic wiretapping in violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, a felony. Bush already has admitted to this;
  • condoning torture in violation of federal laws and international treaties;
  • rescinding habeas corpus, the cornerstone of Western law since the Magna Carta;
  • obstruction of justice regarding U.S. attorney firings;
  • subversion of the Constitution, abuse of signing statements and rescinding habeas corpus.

  • This has gotten Malkin upset but we already know she doesn't care about the rule of law. A classic STUPID on the comment section writes familiar wingnut lies about the Iraq War:

    Posted by CheneyPaul at 11/24/07 12:13 p.m.

    Where's the illegality of this war? You pacifists in Olympia fail to realize that the CONGRESS approved the war, we are NOT subject to UN demands, and the Iraqi people are better off than they were BEFORE the war.

    4 comments:

    Anonymous said...

    You are so right. Why CAN'T WE get congress to move on this? Don't they care?

    Math_Mage said...

    Um, Cheney was fooled by the WMD evidence. Just like Clinton was fooled. Or did you miss his speeches? Note sources like agent "Curveball", who fed the US wrong information. But even if Saddam had WMDs, did you expect to see them when you arrived? I didn't; if he had them, he'd have shipped them elsewhere.

    As for the relationship between Iraq and AQ:
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1738670/posts

    Threatening aggression against Iran: Boyd must be joking. Since when is threatening aggression against any country, particularly Iran, an impeachment-worthy fault?

    Illegal war: Hussein was consistently violating UN 1441, which was the condition for cease-fire in 1991. If the site I linked is to be believed, he also had contacts with Al-Qaeda. Then there's the horrors he had perpetrated on his own people (and on the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq war, though Iran returned in kind). Then there's his past connection with terrorism. Whether or not the war in Iraq was just, one cannot say it was illegal.

    Domestic wiretapping in violation of FISA: In every single other war in history, civil rights have been restricted during wartime. Why do you think this should be any different? Oh, but I forgot: you agree that we shouldn't be at war, and therefore that everything Bush does as a consequence of being at war should be judged by peacetime standards. Take it up with Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and most likely the Cold War presidents (especially those from the Vietnam War era).

    Condoning torture in violation of federal laws and int'l treaties: The Geneva Convention allows illegal combatants a cigarette and a blindfold; they're not POWs. As for federal laws, which ones apply to illegal combatants in foreign prisons?

    Steve J. said...

    Math_Marge writes "In every single other war in history, civil rights have been restricted during wartime. Why do you think this should be any different? "

    Because it is against the LAW.

    Steve J. said...

    Math_Marge writes "Illegal war: Hussein was consistently violating UN 1441, which was the condition for cease-fire in 1991."

    1441 was passed over a decade after the cease-fire.